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Yes please!

http://www.impeachbush.org/

Personally, I think he is the worst President of all. It's time to do something about it.

I can go on and on about him. But, I'm sure most of you already know why.

Nuf said.

-R

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 2112

A bold statement Mr. Trang. I applaud your willingness to make it openly.

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

Hah.I wondered when this was going to hapen.Actually Im suprised he got this far.As for the statement:"The worst thing thats hapend to the U.S"-i say half the world.Too many soldiers lost their life for his ambitions,not only US soldiers infact.Im quite sure it will reach a milion and over,but the question is:will it be enough? Confused

Rank: Veteran Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 668

YAY! USA will be better without him. Very Happy

Rank: Rookie Joined: 20 Jul 2004 Posts: 66

To be fair, the worst President in history award would probably go to James Buchanan, as his administration was mostly at fault for the Civil War. I'm no fan of GWB, but until the blue states actually secede from the Union, there have been worse presidents.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

Let us not forget about "good" ol' Nixon, the only president in U.S. history to be impeached.

Rank: Casual Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 28

Nixon was not impeached. He resigned first.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

I keep hearing divided opinions on that, it's very confusing sometimes.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 2311

Yeah, so far in history there have only been two presidents who have been impeached, though neither were removed from office. They were Andrew Johnson (seventeenth president, sworn in after the assassination of Abraham Lincoln) and Bill Clinton. The reason for this is because the U.S. impeachment process is a two-step process.

First, the House of Representatives must pass an "article of impeachment" by simple majority, and which point the defendant is considered "impeached". Second, a trial is held by the Senate, and a two-thirds majority vote is needed to convict, and if that happens then the accused is forced out of office and may be further barred from holding public office. If a two-thirds majority isn't made in the Senate, then the accused is acquitted and there is no punishment. This is what happened to both Clinton and Johnson, both were acquitted when the Senate failed to get a two-thirds majority (Johnson by only one vote!)

Richard Nixon basically stepped down before the impeachment proceedings went under way. The articles of impeachment against him had already been agreed upon by a House committee and reported before the full House of Reps, but they had not yet gone through the first step when he resigned. His successor, Gerald Ford, granted Nixon a full pardon afterwards, ensuring that there would be no further action taken against him.

Rank: Rookie Joined: 20 Jul 2004 Posts: 66

Not to mention that Nixon did some good while in office, him being the first President to successfully open diplomatic relations with China. In fact, aside from the Vietnam War, his administration actually did a fairly good job when it came to foreign policy. Now, domestic issues, that's a whole 'nother story....

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 2311

Nixon got things done, but there was no doubt that a fair amount of corruption was within his administration. He wasn't a terrible president, he just got caught sticking his neck out for people he probably should have avoided any contact with. He was corrupt, but at least he was competent, which can't be said of Bush...

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

Have any of you seen the movie Fahrenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore?
To say the truth,I admire Moore.Not only does he hate Bush,he has made several bestsellers agianst him.Then came the movie.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 2112

"Those people with enough sense to make a difference in politics, have enough sense not to get involved."
-S. Robinson

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

Sad but true.

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

Im sure that Bush wont last long.USA wont allow him,not anymore.Principes mortales, respublica aeterna,as an old latin saying goes.

Rank: Veteran Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 668

Right.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 836

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 836

as an slight edit to my last post i am not objecting to the idea of impeaching bush... that may be what is good for this country, its just that Young Caesars comment hit a rather raw nerve

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

A smart distinction to make, your edit. Remember, everyone else, no comments of sympathy or condolences.

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

I feel i've been misunderstood here.Im not offering pitty.If you are a soldier you already know what you're getting yourself into.I have not been to Iraq nor am I a soldier in the Army.I know what it is to loose someone close,be it a relative or a friend.But let me ask you Bestile,what would you have done if someone came in your home carrying a gun?
But lets not base our acquaintance on a strife.If you ask me...it would have been better without a war.
Peace.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 836

no real disagreement here have you ever heard the quote "a true warrior prays for peace, for only he knows the true price of war" we never asked for the war we just do our job... now one last comment there is no house to house anymore its all hidden explosives.... but yes i get and understand your point

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

Another version of that quote I've heard goes "Pray for peace, prepare for war." I can quote a couple of other versions as well.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 836

well they aren't quite the same but they are similar enough...

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

Different versions of one core saying tend to get that way after a time.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 836

true enough

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

Si vis pacem, para bellum ! Wink

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 836

some ones been watching the punnisher

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

"If you want peace, prepare for war" I believe is the translation.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 836

yes it is... a rather famous quote that has been made more famous recently in the move The Punnisher

Rank: Casual Joined: 15 Dec 2008 Posts: 43

Sorry to necropost, but I must say this.

Everyone, watch what happens this January. If what I've heard is correct, once Bush leaves office, he will be arrested and tried as a war criminal, and finally get what he deserves.