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Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

Well i looked over the posts about UFOs and extraterestrials but in thos threads now one asked did people belive in aliens.Becaouse most people think that we are the only inteligent creatures in the universe and that kinda bugs me.I had heard of a theory,where it states that we are not from this world and there realy wasn't such thing as "evolution"!An interessting subject and i would realy want to read what you think abou it Wink

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

A personal favorite discussion topic of mine, extraterrestrials, but that falls under the category of "My Personal Beliefs" and I prefer to have those discussions face-to-face if at all. Suffice it to say "I believe in them."

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 552

As someone once said, "The universe is too freakin' large for it to have just ONE sentient race, don't you think?" Very Happy

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

Freakin' A! Well said Martin.So I guess most of ya'll belive in aliens!Thats good to hear,on acount of what i hear about extraterestrials most of the time Wink

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 2112

Well, to be honest, I don't disbelieve in sentient alien life. I'm sure that, somewhere out there, there is an alien culture that has advanced to at least the tool-making level. I do not believe however, that little green men in upside-down plates flew a double dozen trillion light-years just to stick a metal rod up some farmer's rectum and stick a few cows in a blender.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

That's certainly a colorful way of putting it, Xebulon, and I tend to agree with you, to a point, though without the colorful thoughts you seem to have. When I think about and hear things like that, I tend to think "Research has to start somewhere.". As I write this here, another similar circumstance from this comic itself comes to mind, from Issue #3 page 24, a conversation between Betty and Ronald. It went as such: Betty: "Ronald?! Do you want to start from the top or from the bottom?" Ronald" Top, bottom, front, back...it's all the same for me!!!" Sorry, Ronald, better luck in the future.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 2112

Please excuse the colorful metaphors. I decided to cut back on my caffeine intake, not the smartest of ideas when working a graveyard shift. But, meh. As to me views on the aforementioned matter, it has a lot to do with probabilities and gets kinda long and technical. I'll explain it if you all want, but I don't want to clutter up the board otherwise.

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 2311

I tend to believe in other sentient beings existing in our universe, and perhaps even believe in stories of people meeting mysterious beings, but I seriously doubt any of the beings that we've encountered were from another planet.

I didn't used to be a skeptic (I was a huge fan of the X-Files back in the day), but I suppose I became more jaded as I got older... Laughing

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C'est la vie, n'c'est pas Johnny?

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

Well,did aliens realy visit earth is an interesting question.The question,however,is how did all those strange drawings of flying objects and such ended up in ainchent art.Even the mayans had strange drawings of a man(or was it a man...?It realy looked more like a turkey... Wassat

)on a spaceship.Did it represent the dream of mankind to take flight and explore the vast space,or was it a being from another planet?Pearsonaly I think thats its proposterous for turkeys to take a space ship on a stroll to Mars Wink

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

Oh come now, Xebulon, children need attention more than most Wink

. And as for you, YoungCesar, why should aliens be any more or less intrested or involved with turkeys than cows?

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

I didn't say they should be interested,or for that matter,having anything to do with turkeys and cows.I would like to know more about your say in that matter.Oh...and Ashton,didn't you say"I prefer to have those discussions face-to-face if it all"Well it ain't face to face,but we're dicussing it Wink

Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

By my personal standards, the only ones that really matter at the end of the day when all is said and done in my life, no offense, I think of this as more a chipping in of conversation, a suitable phrase might be "Putting my two cents in.", but I would'nt consider my little tidbits a part of this conversation. Apparently by your personal standards, and those of many others, I'm sure, however, I am conversing in this so in that light, let's converse. You may want to note, however, that when I decide to actively participate in a conversation, I'll be "talking" much more. And who knows, maybe in the future of this topic I will decide to actively participate, my preferences are not rules carved in stone, after all Smile

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Royal Member of BonBon Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668

That's odd, I don't remember typing that....... methinks it may be a sign for me to go to bed......at 2 am Laughing

. My apologies for that small bout of sleep & spell, please disregard it. I suppose it was bound to happen eventually, typing in my sleep, oh well. Goodnight, or morning, everyone.

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Rank: Casual Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 47

Well...for my first reply on this forum I'll just say: "Greating eartling we have now taken over the world wide web..." hah naa' just kidding...about the alien theory lets look at the facts THERE IS AN ALIEN LIFE FORM this isnt my own seeing this is a fact how can there not be while there are millions of stars (or more I personaly dind't count them Razz

)so all of you who don't belive it thik about what I sayd Smile

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

IIIIm baaack!Oh,did i miss somthing.Haha!There's nothing i love more than a good conversation.And you're right there are millions of stars out there and who knows what we can find on any of them,when the time comes and we travel out to the endless reaches of space(that didn't sound too poetic did it? Very Happy

)Well said bro!

Rank: Casual Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 47

The coolest thing will be If they discover a planet like Earth but whit .... gues who living on it.... yep you got it OUR favourite BonBons Very Happy

I get that whit the pink on the picture above Razz

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

Nice idea holmes! Very Happy

Now that would be sheer luck!
Err...holmes the lady in the pink is Miss Vanessa Santato the author of PBB Just so you know. Wink

She's very talanted.The three people that hold Bon Bon together are Ms.Santato,Ronald and Martin and if you reading this i thank you for this great site woot

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Rank: Casual Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 47

It was just an exapmple like if I was on a planet full of these Fuckin BEAUTIFUL creatures I'll go and pick Laughing

the fist lucky Foxy lady will be the fist I see Smile

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

Err...she's a cat holmes!And oh,yeah cheers Ronald! Wink

*sips a glass of Makers Mark*

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Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

Okay,okay man.I see your a bit off the fashizul Wink

Back to the subject,i heard of a theory that humans are not realy from earth,meaning we did never evolve from primates.It states that we are an alien race,come from Syrius 5(or somthing like that,somebody correct me if it isnt right)Crashed on earth and lost all sorts of contact to our planet.Lets see you brainstorming on that one Wink

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Sounds like wishful thinking and human egotism to me. "We're not evolved from lowly apes, we're creatures from a far more superior world than this one!"

Gee, where have I heard that before?

Not to pee in your cornflakes, but most theories like that tend to push me further away from being a "UFO-believer" and closer to a "skeptic".

Rank: Casual Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 47

That with the alien humans or human aliens or what is it is kind'a interesting but I just imagine it...and thik about it We crush whit a big bad flyin' ship ending on a planet having no connection whit ours ok I can take that but thik Why the F**k did they started from the stone age Curious

I think that a race able to build a space ship would have at least a weel or somethink like that.What everyone lost theyr mind while the ship crashed I dont belive it really Smile

I belive more in the "Mayans goin' through interdemensional portal"theory Wink

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As for what happened with the Neanderthal man, there's two theories:
1) They died out, unable to adapt to the end of the Ice Age and compete with Homo Sapiens (the theory most people believe)
2) They interbred with Homo Sapiens, and essentially became "lost" in our gene pool (a less popular but plausible theory)

My theory? Homosapiens pushed the Neanderthals out of their hunting ranges, forcing them into the more inhospitable mountainous ranges. Over time, due to the scarce diet and hard living on the mountains, they became much shorter creatures, becoming squat, robust, and very hairy. The few encounters with these small men-like creatures in our early history resulted in the stories of dwarves and gnomes in Europe, and these creatures would eventually become the stuff of legends as they slowly became extinct due to their inability to compete with the more adaptable modern humans.

Evolution is about the survival of the fittest, and Homo Sapiens have always been an extremely aggressive species. Sometimes evolutionary lines become deadends, and a species like the Neanderthal simply disappears. Sometimes it fourishes, and continues to propogate. We are not only among just a few species of animals that have learned to adapt to just about every environment and climate, but we actively change our environment to adapt it to our own needs. Perhaps that's what kept Neanderthal man from continuing to propogate... they simply were unable to adapt to changing climates and a new competitor to food sources.

And to say that nature is not capable of creating something that will "hurt her" makes me wonder what you think causes stars to collapse on themselves or for asteroids to collide with our planet every now and then. That would be nature. What you percieve as our "disruption" of nature could very well be what we were intended to do... to reshape the world for the next step of evolutionary change. I do believe that we are incapable of "destroying" the earth completely, and that any major ecological disasters that occur as a result of our own negligence is not irreversible. Nature learns to adapt, even to the most harsh environs. Don't forget, there are entire ecosystems living near the toxic vents of volcanoes, and in the dark, sunless depths of the ocean floors.

We might mess the place up a bit, but I still believe it's human egotism to believe we are completely capable of destroying all live on our planet. That old argument has always sounded like humans "acting tough". Sure, we may not be proud of our polluting and our eradicaton of species (like the Neanderthals), but by admitting fault we seem to secretly be giving ourselves too much credit.

This is why I don't get into these discussions, because I always, always play the role of "devil's advocate"...

Rank: Mr. Fabulous Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 502

Don't blame yourself.In all our discusions we stand for what we belive is right Wink

As for the theory about Homo Neanderhalensis,i think you do have a point Curious

I actualy don't stand up for any of these theorys,don't get me wrong,i just want to hear the other's oppinuion.I realy do belive that man is a plague on this planet,but i hate people that dont accept what they are.It is how we are born,it is how we are.Its humans nature.I think we are allso,the most,so to say "greacefull" being.We created history,that marks our true nature,but we also created poetry,songs,the undersanding of sex.How its not only reproduction and continueing our spiecies,but its a pleasure,a fealing like no other.
Stars collapse on themselfs because it is their "nature".It is how they exist.While some things are ment to live,others are ment to die eventualy.Asteroids collide on planets,beacouse it is inevitable.This is not nature,it is more fate,it is how things are.