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| Alley Baggett Forum -> AlleyBaggett.net Discussions ~ Francine Dee Goes Hardcore |
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Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:59 pm
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I don't think so Bernardo....
Actually, I wont be releasing that one shower PPV I talked about previously.... It's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to personal!!! even though all you see are feet and hear us do it.
Sorry...to burst any bubbles. Oh well, that's what fantasies are for....which is what I'm all about.
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Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:40 pm
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I guess I just haven't wished HARD enough yet. I'll keep trying though!  |
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Actually, I wont be releasing that one shower PPV I talked about previously.... It's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to personal!!! even though all you see are feet and hear us do it.
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I didn't know about this PPV!!  Knowing it now, I'd prefer knowing nothing. But who knows if one day, you'll change your mind. It's only feet and ... fantasies!  With sound, its more easy to fantasie, to dream you! You can't blame us for this.  |
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Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:20 pm
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I don't think so Bernardo....
Actually, I wont be releasing that one shower PPV I talked about previously.... It's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to personal!!! even though all you see are feet and hear us do it.
Sorry...to burst any bubbles. Oh well, that's what fantasies are for....which is what I'm all about.
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Excuse me a second while I burst into tears. I felt all day there was a reason for the sunless gray skies today. I now know why.   |
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Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:27 pm
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I don't think so Bernardo....
Actually, I wont be releasing that one shower PPV I talked about previously.... It's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to personal!!! even though all you see are feet and hear us do it.
Sorry...to burst any bubbles. Oh well, that's what fantasies are for....which is what I'm all about.
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Woah that sucks. I think we were all anticipating for this PPV release.
I was really looking forward in watching or hearing Alley get plowed.. hehe |
Last edited by rubeN on Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:30 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:43 pm
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Good for Francine and especially her fans. I'm sure they're loving it but for me, personally, it does nothing. I've never been a fan of hers so that's probably the reason.
When Alley does her 1st HC then that would get my attention. Fantasy doesn't get my attention so much. It's intangible and you can't watch it over and over again.
The PPV video watching feet and hearing sex noises would not be a purchase on my CC. Too tame and would leave an empty feeling that would need to be filled.
Now a PPV video with Alley blowing her BF and taking a huge load to the kisser. This I would happily pay extra for. More so than a sex vid which wouldn't be as interesting in my humble opinion. Wooden comes to mind, and I'm not talking about my pecker.
At any rate, cheers, Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year you AB nationites you. |
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Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:33 am
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| Do you really think that video exists. It is like when you go to a strip club and the dancer pays attention to you as long as you give them money. Alley is just marketing herself trying to keep the members happy by acting all sexy and giving us what we want(what Alley thinks we want). I have no problem with it, but just don't believe everything you read. |
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Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:39 pm
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Okay Thor,
Sorry to tell you different but YOU ARE WRONG. That PPV shower scene does exist. If you don't want to believe that it ever did exist......that's fine too.
Anyway....you guys are funny!
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Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:17 pm
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| ah shieeet.. post it and charge $25.. i'd buy it in a heartbeat! |
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Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:34 pm
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Alley i must admit, when you first talked about that scene, i was a bit excited... but the more i thought about it, i decided i wouldn't be purchasing it if you did post it...
sorry guys, but unlike most of you here (it appears) i would much rather Alley keep things along the lines she has been of late.
although i do very much enjoy her "exploration" and her becoming more comfortable with her "womanhood" as she has put it... i really do not wish to see (or hear) her in any explicit scene. i don't wish to see her in a photo shoot or video with her man, or any "toys"...
she is my ultimate fantasy girl - her beauty, morals, character, and CLASS are exquisite, and i feel any venture into an explicit endeavor would cheapen her, and ultimately disappoint me... 
Alley, please don't change - i'm sure i'm not the only one who loves you exactly the way you are, and don't need anything "extra" from you!!
...don't mean to offend any of you guys, or put you down... just voicing my opinion!! |
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:43 am
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J3,
I have to agree with you here. There are only 2 girls that I give any attention to and the other one is Francine Dee. However, this is just no cool at all. The confusing thing with Francine is that she goes from one extreme to the other... she is so protective of her kitten, but now she invites some guy into the scene??!!
Alley, this is the type of thing that makes women lose respect for themselves. If that happens, the rest of the world will be happy to oblige the lack of respect. It turns really attractive women in whores. (excuse.. please) Contrary to popular opinion the line between sexy seduction and down right prostitution is not that thin. There is a huge leap. I am sad that Francine took that road. If she is trying to keep up subscribership, this is not the way to do it... not with the type of clientele you want. This type of thing if done over a period of time becomes malignant and destructive to a persons self worth and to the respect of those around them.
I'm with you sweetheart. What you are giving is a great look into personality and values. |
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:58 am
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Hey Alley,....
I think it would be crazy for any fan to expect you to do any kind of hardcore sexual act for fans to view or record. That does not seem to be in your plans for your career or personality. That said this is a clip/video that you should watch it's very hott! I would say a longtime coming. I must say it's very tasteful and I love the way she decided to ease her way into the medium much like Sandee Westgate. A girl I'd peronslly like to see you shoot with again.
thanks!
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| This thread keeps getting more depressing by the post. Alley and Francine are not the same at all. Judging by character and morals, as it has always been, any presentation of explicitness or exploration of sexuality by alley would be done with class. What Alley does is pure art, beauty in its truest form. To insinuate that any progression of of this art would cheapen her in any way or cause a loss of respect is an insult to her character, not a consequence of action. I keep coming back because Alley keeps giving me something to look forward to. If you don't want more of something why would you keep coming back? Just curious. If Alley were a legendary rock band, that has been on top of the charts for over 10 years, and she felt the need to explore new ideas and move forward with new direction, a true fan would not be so judgmental from any view. No one here is forced to enjoy this art, there are many alternatives. |
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:45 pm
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| Actually, I wont be releasing that one shower PPV I talked about previously.... It's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to personal!!! even though all you see are feet and hear us do it.
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Shucks...
I think this decision should be re-evaluted on a full moon, after a couple of glasses of wine and a dozen oysters...
I would definitely cough up some dough to see it! |
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:39 pm
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| Anyway....you guys are funny!
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No doubt...we're clowns...we're here to amuse you...we're here to make you laugh.
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| ah shieeet.. post it and charge $25.. i'd buy it in a heartbeat!
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25 bones just there for the taking Alley. Don't hesitate, appreciate.
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| Alley i must admit, when you first talked about that scene, i was a bit excited... but the more i thought about it, i decided i wouldn't be purchasing it if you did post it...
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J3,
I have to agree with you here.
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Hey Alley,....
I think it would be crazy for any fan to expect you to do any kind of hardcore sexual act for fans to view or record.
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Not really, but I understand where you're coming from.
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| This thread keeps getting more depressing by the post.
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Are you kidding?!? This thread has some serious potential. Stay tuned.
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| Alley and Francine are not the same at all. Judging by character and morals,
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Moving on.
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Shucks...
I think this decision should be re-evaluted on a full moon, after a couple of glasses of wine and a dozen oysters...
I would definitely cough up some dough to see it!
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Of course! Alley smokes a few j's while in the twinkling glow of her Christmas tree lights, and then bam! The next thing you know HC content starts showing up on AB-dot-net. Cha-ching!!! Momma needs a new Green, Earth friendly automobile. Two of'em.
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:26 pm
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Hi Alley
OK, my .02 here on this subject...
Great decision not to post it or offer the vidio Alley..Good for you...
You just keep doing what you have been doing that has made you the best of the best....
By doing anything different and going more personal or hard core in your photo sets and / or vidio's...
You go from being one of the worlds best and most respected and beautiful models...
To nothing more than a soft core porn model and actress...
You have worked to hard and to long to build a steller reputation. And you are the best out there... There is a reason why you have been on top for years.... Because, you are beautiful and a class act...
You don't need to go and get involved any deeper than what you have been delievering for years....
For some of you guys wanting Alley to go for it... Let it all go with photo sets and vidio's....
Well, I feel bad for you guys.... You miss the whole and complete beauty of this woman... She stands alone at the top...For who she is as a person, for her beauty, and for her fine judgement on how to market herself and have a successful carrier...
It is not only her outer beauty that makes Alley the best... It's also her inner beauty and good judgment... To give us enough and share herself with us...But never crossing the line ...That's why she is the best....
Blessings
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By doing anything different and going more personal or hard core in your photo sets and / or vidio's...
You go from being one of the worlds best and most respected and beautiful models...
To nothing more than a soft core porn model and actress...
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With all due respect for your opinions and feelings, I seriously disagree with this statement.
Alley should be free to express herself in any way she feels comfortable with, without having to be "judged"- especially by her fans.
Alley's ability to change and bring varying levels of naughty, nice, sweet, and hot- is what makes her interesting as well as sexy. Keeps me coming back for more!
I can't wait to see all of the new and exciting PPV clips, and see just how sweet, sexy, naughty and nice Alley can be! |
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| Are you kidding?!? This thread has some serious potential. Stay tuned.
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I'll be waiting . . . |
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Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:37 am
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DS....
for all the negatives you had to say about other's posts, and the statements that you "stopped reading"...
it sure seems you studied all the posts in detail!
anyways, on to more intelligent comments...
although i can see where he was going with this, I don't believe that Alley exploring more explicit avenues can be compared to your favorite band changing styles, as one person put it...
an evolution like that is of a more artistic and creative nature...
Alley choosing to shoot explicit photos and videos doesn't seem to me to be any sort of artistic exploration, rather an effort to bring in more [depraved] customers to her site.
the female form (or human form) for that matter is a beautiful thing and hence has been the object of incredible works of artistry for centuries... have you ever seen a classic painting or sculpture of some woman straddling a man in "reverse cowgirl", or a couple engaged in a "doggie style"????
no, because that is not considered art by the masses... those images remain "taboo" and considered explicit for a reason.
true, sex is a beautiful thing... and don't get me wrong, i've seen my share of porn...
but that is BY FAR a whole other world from where i consider Alley, and her site!! Alley and her style are of a true artistic form and beauty, and like i stated before, i would be disappointed if she changed that. (especially if it was just to keep/gain a few fans)
for those of you who want to see that sort of thing, there are PLENTY of other sites on the internet to go for that! if you are truly a fan of Alley, it shouldn't take her going "hard core" for you to be happy and/or remain a member of her site. you should stay/become a member because you appreciate her as she is.
btw, i have always thought that francine dee was incredibly beautiful as well, and no disrespect to her... but my regards for her have dropped a notch!  |
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the female form (or human form) for that matter is a beautiful thing and hence has been the object of incredible works of artistry for centuries... have you ever seen a classic painting or sculpture of some woman straddling a man in "reverse cowgirl", or a couple engaged in a "doggie style"????
no, because that is not considered art by the masses... those images remain "taboo" and considered explicit for a reason.
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YES !!! Since the begining of human being, those things exist, J3a! You can found painted in prehistoric caves, you can find sculpted in various asian temple, you can find in a lot of statute in Africa, in Rome, Greece, in antics civilizations. Before, it was absolutely no taboo. And kamasutra is not new !! But you know, religion passed by and now, all the world find it horrible. But it has always exist because it's just life.
No, sex is not dirty! All depend the way you represent it. I don't say everything explicit and porn is beautiful but you can find for every taste. And you can find some classy, some artistic stuff. Don't necessary need architectural or zoomed view.
I'm 100 % with all the post of Kriss Lea. I'm sure Alley can create her style in it. But anyway, the Pvv here is not about graphic, it's only sound. Same thing everybody can hear in a hollywood movie or surprising the neighbour. And that's perfect, we are in a adult site offering adult contents !
Sorry if I offense someone. It's just my 2 cents! |
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Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:42 pm
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I firmly believe when Alley does her first B/G video it will be well thought out and done in the AB style. That is to say, it will be, using your words - a true artistic form and beauty. This will not attract anonymous (depraved?) HC pr0n fans as they wouldn't be interested in a one time deal from someone that wasn't even on their radar to begin with. This would simply be something that would knock the socks off her current and longtime members. Just as when she started showing more on her webcam did. I mean think about it, do you honestly believe that if Alley did a surprise BJ during her web cam session people would be upset? What you'd probably have is people sitting up with their faces 6" from the screen thinking, "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god!" Along with racing hearts, racing wrists, you name it.
Really, I'm not here to offend anyone. Just having a little fun, so don't take this discussion too serious. I'm not, which I hope is obvious.
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I firmly believe when Alley does her first B/G video it will be well thought out and done in the AB style. That is to say, it will be, using your words - a true artistic form and beauty. This will not attract anonymous (depraved?) HC pr0n fans as they wouldn't be interested in a one time deal from someone that wasn't even on their radar to begin with. This would simply be something that would knock the socks off her current and longtime members. Just as when she started showing more on her webcam did. I mean think about it, do you honestly believe that if Alley did a surprise BJ during her web cam session people would be upset? What you'd probably have is people sitting up with their faces 6" from the screen thinking, "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god!" Along with racing hearts, racing wrists, you name it.
Really, I'm not here to offend anyone. Just having a little fun, so don't take this discussion too serious. I'm not, which I hope is obvious.
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i do understand your guys' points...
and yes orange, i know that those images and depictions of sexual situations and positions have been around for hundreds of years from all cultures and civilizations all over the world.
i knew that would come up... but my point was, those images are a record of human history and sexual exploration. they are not considered "art" but more or less "artifacts"... there is a difference 
but, all i ever meant by my comments in this thread, is that i put Alley on a pedistal. i feel she is a class act, and absolutely beautiful in every way. i have a lot of respect for her and the way she carries herself. i personally would not want to see her do anything explicit...
to those who do want to see that from her... well, to each his own! |
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| Personally, I hope NEVER to see some dude in one of alley's sets or vids. Not a sight i'm into. |
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The cool thing about PPV clips is that you have to PAY for them to see them. If anyone dosen't like what she is offering, they don't have to buy it.
I, for one, would definitely buy the "Alley and Partner" clips. |
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The cool thing about PPV clips is that you have to PAY for them to see them. If anyone dosen't like what she is offering, they don't have to buy it.
I, for one, would definitely buy the "Alley and Partner" clips.
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i love this forum!
no matter what everyone's difference of opinions are,
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I love this forum too! and J3 is right....you are all COOL as shit!!
Reading these posts in this thread...is REALLY funny for me! You guys really take this thing SO serious. I guess it makes sense because for so many years...I have been this kind of model....and to change now...would be SHOCKING!!!!
Don't WORRY!!! I will never change and I will NEVER cross that line. I've turned down Penthouse twice. I've turned down a couple of other hardcore photographers/sites. If it was for the money for me...I would have done all those gigs. Everything I do....is FOR me to always be proud of....be turned on by it when I see it....and for me to look back and say WOW that was some amazing stuff!
NEW PPV's coming out soon,
XMAS lapdance (beware you might see a hand in the shot..but nothing explicit)
Dancing in booty shorts, singing into hair brush...
Doing make-up
Smoking cigarette looking bitchy : )
Sitting in jacuzzi flashing booty/boobs
oh and lying in bed and playing under the sheets....
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