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| I agree. How about every one of those guys looked like f*&^ing Greek Gods! I felt so inadequate after that I wanted to go immediately to the gym. However, I did kind of have an issue with the film style of the movie. I didn't really like the slow motion/fast motion fight sequences and some of the visuals looked a little cartoonish. I really wish this movie had been based off of the book "Gates Of Fire" instead of the graphic novel. Still, I definately enjoyed it; a well spent $7.50. |
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I agree. How about every one of those guys looked like f*&^ing Greek Gods! I felt so inadequate after that I wanted to go immediately to the gym. However, I did kind of have an issue with the film style of the movie. I didn't really like the slow motion/fast motion fight sequences and some of the visuals looked a little cartoonish. I really wish this movie had been based off of the book "Gates Of Fire" instead of the graphic novel. Still, I definately enjoyed it; a well spent $7.50.
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If it had, it wouldn't have been called "300". |
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| what impressed me the most (besides the battle scenes and the general "manliness" of the movie) was the cinematography of the whole thing. Just like "Sin City", it was obvious the director was following the original comic (sorry, graphic novel) as closely as possible. I think this adds to the characters looking like "Greek gods", since it's not necessarily trying to portray a realistic world, but a more mythical world. |
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Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:25 am
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| My only genuine complaint with the film was the location. I could be wrong (it has been a while since I studied history) but wasn't Thermopoly a city, not a mountain pass? |
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Ah. Well, not the first time I've been wrong.  |
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what impressed me the most (besides the battle scenes and the general "manliness" of the movie) was the cinematography of the whole thing. Just like "Sin City", it was obvious the director was following the original comic (sorry, graphic novel) as closely as possible. I think this adds to the characters looking like "Greek gods", since it's not necessarily trying to portray a realistic world, but a more mythical world.
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I have yet to read the whole series of "300" but I do own the first issue and noticed that they added the wife to the scene where the Persian came to Sparta. Though I am glad they didn't follow the books close enough to have as much male nudity as Frank Miller drew. The chisled physiques made me self-conscious enough. |
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I agree. How about every one of those guys looked like f*&^ing Greek Gods! I felt so inadequate after that I wanted to go immediately to the gym.
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And this is the training they did in order to look that way!
"Without resting between exercises, Butler performs 25 pullups, 50 deadlifts with 135 pounds, 50 pushups, 50 jumps on a 24-inch box, 50 floor wipers (*3), 50 single-arm clean-and-presses using a 36-pound kettle bell, and 25 more pullups. All this, in addition to utilizing other unconventional yet equally taxing training methods, such as tire flipping and gymnastics-style ring training. Sound like hell? It is."
Being one who works out quite a bit, I tried this set..........it....is....HELL!!!!!! I'm in damn good shape and I felt like i was gonna die!!!!  |
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but maybe it is better if you get a program for the army or advice for profs?
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Army workouts are overrated, well "real army" workouts at least. They have been proven to be more harmful to your health than beneficial to it. Most of the "in shape" soldiers are only that way because they go to the gym in their spare time. |
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Some interesting tib-bits. The director of 300 called up each of the actors in turn, saying "Have you seen your co-star(insert name), man he's buff. He's been down the gym and..." This cause competion between all the actors to try and out six-pack each other. 
A small fact about the Spartan warriors is that each one had to select a male lover from their ranks. The reasoning behind this was that with this type of 'Buddie'system each warrior would feel more protective to his partner and fight harder to protect them.  Not something encoraged within the armed forces of the world today.
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A small fact about the Spartan warriors is that each one had to select a male lover from their ranks. The reasoning behind this was that with this type of 'Buddie'system each warrior would feel more protective to his partner and fight harder to protect them. Not something encoraged within the armed forces of the world today.
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Actually, that's not the Spartans who did that, but the Thebans who had a special, hand-picked troop of paired soldiers called the Sacred Band of Thebes[1]. I don't know exactly why everyone mistakes the Sacred Band of Thebes with the Spartans, but as far as most historians know Sparta didn't have any official practice of homosexual pairings in their armies. In fact, according to the writings of Xenophon of Athens, a soldier and contemporary of Socrates who lived between 430 and 350 BCE, the Spartans "abhorred the thought of using the relationships as the basis of unit formation for placing too much significance on sexuality rather than talent"[2].
That's not to say that homosexuality didn't exist in Sparta or in Spartan armies, they just didn't base their whole military structure on it like the Sacred Band of Thebes.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece |
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| ((Um... okay, maybe I'm missing something from this, being not a guy, but... so a bunch of body-builders wearing capes apparently are immune to everything? I mean, really, can you immagine the sunburn those guys musta had? And the chaifing of that... leather... codpiece? I've had panties cut like that, and let me tell you, they AREN'T for exercizing in. I mean, really... I've seen more armor on some B. Valero (sp?) fantasy pictures from th 70s. I gotta say... the movie kinda blew. I liked the costuming of the persians, and the persian soldiers... and the drop-kick the one Immortal did had me laughing so hard I spilled my Sangrina, but... otherwise... the movie was kinda cheezy and stupid. I guess part of it also is the fact my brother is in the Reserves... and I took a lot of umbrage to the Spartans completely mocking the fact the Acadians came. At least the Acadians stood up to be counted. *shrug* I guess I just don't have enough testosterone poisoning to get it.)) |
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| well ive always been a fan of Greek history especially Sparta just the harshness of what they did to create the best army in the Roman/Greek empire and Caroline you are right leather does hurt like hell |
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well ive always been a fan of Greek history especially Sparta just the harshness of what they did to create the best army in the Roman/Greek empire and Caroline you are right leather does hurt like hell
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speaking from experience, i would assume, eh thale?  |
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((Um... okay, maybe I'm missing something from this, being not a guy, but... so a bunch of body-builders wearing capes apparently are immune to everything? I mean, really, can you immagine the sunburn those guys musta had? And the chaifing of that... leather... codpiece? I've had panties cut like that, and let me tell you, they AREN'T for exercizing in. I mean, really... I've seen more armor on some B. Valero (sp?) fantasy pictures from th 70s. I gotta say... the movie kinda blew. I liked the costuming of the persians, and the persian soldiers... and the drop-kick the one Immortal did had me laughing so hard I spilled my Sangrina, but... otherwise... the movie was kinda cheezy and stupid. I guess part of it also is the fact my brother is in the Reserves... and I took a lot of umbrage to the Spartans completely mocking the fact the Acadians came. At least the Acadians stood up to be counted. *shrug* I guess I just don't have enough testosterone poisoning to get it.))
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The cod peaces wher so the movie doesnt get an X rateing (as far as US movie rateing go), Greek solders back then fought almost in the nude save for the capes and helmets. |
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((Um... okay, maybe I'm missing something from this, being not a guy, but... so a bunch of body-builders wearing capes apparently are immune to everything? I mean, really, can you immagine the sunburn those guys musta had? And the chaifing of that... leather... codpiece? I've had panties cut like that, and let me tell you, they AREN'T for exercizing in. I mean, really... I've seen more armor on some B. Valero (sp?) fantasy pictures from th 70s. I gotta say... the movie kinda blew. I liked the costuming of the persians, and the persian soldiers... and the drop-kick the one Immortal did had me laughing so hard I spilled my Sangrina, but... otherwise... the movie was kinda cheezy and stupid. I guess part of it also is the fact my brother is in the Reserves... and I took a lot of umbrage to the Spartans completely mocking the fact the Acadians came. At least the Acadians stood up to be counted. *shrug* I guess I just don't have enough testosterone poisoning to get it.))
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The cod peaces wher so the movie doesnt get an X rateing (as far as US movie rateing go), Greek solders back then fought almost in the nude save for the capes and helmets.
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Haha, not quite. Actually, in real life the Spartans wore hoplite armor, which would have included a bronze breastplate, skirt, and greaves. Remember, the entire story is being told by the one-eyed Dilios, who is the lone survivor of the Battle of Thermopylae, so he was basically telling a good story to boost the morale of the Spartan troops around him. He's what's known as an "Unreliable Narrator", so the story will obviously skew the truth quite a bit to make the Spartans look even more larger than life. The Spartans are trumped up as near-invicible, like the Olympian gods themselves, and so it makes sense to depict the "god-like" Spartans the same way the ancient gods were depicted in artwork: in the buck.
And don't worry, Caroline, we won't fault you for your lack of testosterone. A movie this freakin' manly isn't going to be liked by everyone. It basically hangs its balls right in front of the audience's face the entire time, so of course some people will become unnerved. |
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Remember, the entire story is being told by the one-eyed Dilios, who is the lone survivor of the Battle of Thermopylae, so he was basically telling a good story to boost the morale of the Spartan troops around him.
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Not totally true, Johnny. Remember all the soldiers who left. They may not have survived through the entire battle, but they did survive a good portion of it, just like Dilios. |
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What I meant was, he was the lone Spartan survivor (according to the story, at least) of the Battle of Thermopylae. The 300 Spartans weren't the only ones to stay behind (there were also 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans), but again, since this was a Spartan (Dilios) telling the tale, he left that part out to make the Spartan sacrifice seem even more impressive.
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| And don't worry, Caroline, we won't fault you for your lack of testosterone. A movie this freakin' manly isn't going to be liked by everyone. It basically hangs its balls right in front of the audience's face the entire time, so of course some people will become unnerved.
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*rolls her eyes* As much as I like being potatoe-sack bagged as the next girl, I'll leave you alone with your manly movie, and all it's... balls hanging in front of you ;P |
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