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LosihoTTT
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:29 am  Reply with quote
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Ok, I have a confession to make - I'm also a member at Erica Campbell's website.

However, there have been no updates of pics / videos for a few weeks now, and according to Wikkepedia, she's done a "Crissy Moran" and quit modelling ?

Does anyone know what's going on ? The forum on her website has also disappeared.
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LosihoTTT
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:35 am  Reply with quote
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Damn ! Her's the full story -

http://www.clubericacampbell.com/

Crying or Very sad


She'll be missed (but I still love you Alley !)
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traitor!!!!! Laughing
isn't erica the one who "beat" Alley out of the PBSE MOY cover last year? Confused


but anyways... no, i haven't heard anything about that, losihottt - i did hear that crissy moran is back tho, is that true?
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Ronald
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:24 pm  Reply with quote
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April Fools is over right?

Reading that stuff of Erica's site is a bit errr rather an extreme approach to what she's doing.

Some of the stuff she says is true. But- her approach is a bit extreme.

She mentions "fans seeking porn as a way to fill the void and loneliness". <cough cough>

I think "porn" is healthy for people to get the 'stress' release they need out of their system. I don't think people seek porn cuz they're lonely, but more like they need to get off. (to be a bit more blunt.)

But others, the more gentlemen, looks at pics of beautiful women and their beautiful body.... nothing is wrong with that.

True, there are a few lost girls out there that do it for the quick cash and drug addiction feed. BUT that is them. And if Erica feels she's one of them, then that is a different story. She shouldn't project her own self-loneliness onto others and portray others in the same way she feels.

Anyways- it was rather disappointing to read that post of hers.

And for those who are religious, sorry if my post offends you.

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LosihoTTT
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:31 pm  Reply with quote
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Ronald wrote:


And for those who are religious, sorry if my post offends you.



Proud Athiest here. And you're more than welcome to speak your mind.
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Ronald
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I'd have to say I am Agnostic.

Although, I've leaned towards believing that there is probably a God but he really doesn't do much but sit back and watch and laugh. And sometimes I've believed that he's fiddle with the fabric of time and space every now and then. LOL.

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ag·nos·tic Audio Help /ægˈnɒstɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ag-nos-tik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
2. a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study.
–adjective 3. of or pertaining to agnostics or agnosticism.
4. asserting the uncertainty of all claims to knowledge

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:40 am  Reply with quote
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Tbh, the moment I saw the word "God" in that post, I closed that fan... Atheist here as well, and really, a former nude model going all religious and talking down on nude modeling, that's just hypocritical to the extreme Shocked

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Ronald
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Apparently alot of people are bashing on Erica in the industry. Found webmaster forums and such having discussions similarly to the above.

Here's something funny for you...

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Hello Erica. My name is GOD. Yes. Christ. I want you to put your clothes back on. Shut down your website, and screw over all your associates. And tell your fans to fuck off and tell everybody in the industry they're wrong doers and they're sinners. and while you're at it. help all those other lost lonely girls fill their hole. Here are some butt plugs.

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LosihoTTT
PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:59 pm  Reply with quote
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I dunno. Maybe the whole Religious thing is an excuse....maybe her partner / family were pressuring her to quit modelling / the adult entertainment industry.

I'm only speculating........
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Ronald
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She did recently start that Club site. I know she has some other site.

Probably an excuse to get out of her contract with those partners.

I mean "acts of GOD" is somewhat in a contract usually for breaking agreements. LOL. Just speculating.

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That quote cracked me up.
Laughing
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mooart
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I'm agnostic…yet it seems to me that if she is going to give her life to God, maybe God should tell her it's not honest to do your fan base, or anybody else that way…or is it cool to just leave everybody holding the bag?
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Ronald
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The logic here doesn't really hold much water.

*IF* God was almighty, as Erica believes, and that he has always been there for her. And the fact that maybe he sees the future the past and the present etc.... And if "porn" was wrong for her or wrong in general. Why on earth did he wait til now to reach out to her. LOL.

If God had plans for her, why did he bring her into the industry to start.

Those who uses the "religion card" last minute as their excuse or escape or their 'salvation' to their problems have ALWAYS been lost. and WILL ALWAYS BE lost. Religion preys on the weak.

Those who have always had a religion and stuck with one. And has always been faithful, then that's a different story. No bashing from me on those people. I respect that.


Don't get me wrong. I think religion is a great thing to have in the world. It gives people who can't make judgements for themselves (what's right and wrong) something to believe in and something do on sunday cuz their bored, and something to fear thus preventing them from committing crimes. Otherwise, our world would be in total chaos. Really, I am thankful we have religion. Could be worst right? I mean Erica converting to a hate group, instead of serving Christ.

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nebraska
PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:42 pm  Reply with quote
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Hey Ronald

I would just love to respond to your post above. I am just itching to roll up my sleeves and give you my perspective. But, after pausing and thinking about it. My thoughts and opinons will not get published. I know that you will delete my post. You have the power. So, I decided not to write a novel and respond to some of your commints.

Although I always respect everyone's opionion on what to believe or not believe is a very personal matter. I do not judge or degrate or belittle anyone. You should do the same my friend.



Blessings

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Ronald
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Thanks Nebraska. But feel free to speak your mind. If I offended you, I apologize.

I'm not trying to belittle. Its just my opinion on the religion matter. It may offend some people because they may feel like they're a target of my opinion.

My parents of course hate me (well not really) but they get really upset when I go off on religion. They're buddhist. I was raised buddhist for quite some time. Then my mother thought it would be great to expand my views on religion and put me into a christian church (Presbyterian to be exact). I went for over 2-3 years. Sunday school everything. And for a long period of time, I actually believed in Jesus, and prayed. I used to say grace. And I guess one day the science and the logic kicked into me. I know my opinions on religion will probably upset a good number of people - I'm sure. But then again, I did fess up to say that I'm agnostic in the previous post. I haven't given up believing that there may be a Supreme being- otherwise I'd be atheist.

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Ronald
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nebraska wrote:
I know that you will delete my post. You have the power. So, I decided not to write a novel and respond to some of your commints.


Well- between you and me. I don't really delete posts unless I'm asked to by Alley or Rick or moderators or the Original Poster. And all postings are actually moved to a "hidden" thread out of view. (They aren't really deleted.) Mostly the spam posts will get moved by me because they're spam.

I actually like having posts, good or bad, because it's great google keyword searches. Smile Which generate great traffic. So anybody who writes novels on the forum, I'm always happy to see.

I know religion is always a good subject of conversation and very controversial. It always sparks a good discussion and lets everybody spew their opinions.

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Ronald
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Before you go all out and drop a bomb on me. I just want to let you know, chances are I probably won't be deleting your post unless somebody requests it. But its a good chance I will probably also refrain from escalating a heated discussion.

One of the things that really suck about running a business, you some what become a 'public figure. Models, actors, and politicians especially often times don't have the full luxury to go all out on their opinions. As you probably know why... Just bad for the image. Or bad for the business. Bad PR.

Often times, you let things go. And nod.

But- I'll share with you my experience with God. And it somewhat fits in with Erica's situation. I've actually had 2 dark moments of my life that I thought I'd never get out of or that's it for me. And yeah- I've looked to God in my own silent moment. (not going to church or anything.) But just talking to myself and 'God'. I thought about quitting the business and just doing exactly what Erica did. But that would totally screw over a ton of people. Including Alley, Rick, probably all the fans. And all the other partners and associates and members.

In the end, I saw myself through it. Realized that everything boiled down to "money" (well at least one of the dark moments I had was money related). I'm sure Erica's problems are just that. Money. If you read over her posting, you get a hint of that.

So when I realized that it's just money and it's not the end of the world. I managed to get out of my funk. And figure out either how to make more money. Or just not let money take over how I feel about myself. Or these other problems/feelings, as a result of money.

I didn't do a 360. I didn't go to an extreme. Sure. I looked to God in my own personal way. But I didn't jump to become his servant and project my views on to others. That's probably what got me worked up about Erica's approach. She should take some responsibilities or slowly work things out over time, not blame others or project her problems on to others. She's totally saying other girls are like her. That everything in the adult industry is wrong, and those who subscribe to the adult stuff are also wrong. (well I guess that's her opinion, but it screws over her partners/associates in the business.)

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Interesting.....

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Ronald....and others.

I respect everyone's opinion.

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I was debating on posting something because this last time I did on a "touchy" subject things got out of hand. But I realy need to address something here and i hope I can do it without anyone ripping ME apart.

Let me start by saying that I hope Erica is now happy in her life and with her decision.

I also want to start by saying I have a degree in Astrophysics AND I am a Christian. I do not go to church though because I do believe that you can't rely on others to tell you how to believe. I use my logic and science background to look at biblical stories in ways that those who take the stories literally cannot.

My problem with what has been said here is it seems to be mocking anyone who has faith. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like it is the belief of people here that all people of faith - especially Christians - are wacked out nutjobs who will yell at you that your going to hell unless you accept God. In my experience that is not the case for most people of faith. Most quietly go about their lives without mention of their faith except when they attend church on Sundays.

Where this impression is coming from is those Christian rock commercials on TV and the televangelist. It also sounds like, at least from her post, that Erica has become an evangelical Chrsitian. I have my most serious issues with how evangelicals practice their faith, however, I let them practice without my input because they did not ask for it. But, should I get asked I actually know enough about Christianity and its religions that I can have a cordial debate with someone like Erica letting them know my disagreements without demeaning or belittling them - as in my opinion, again, it seems to have been done here.

I respect an atheist point of view, even though I can't grasp it just as most people can't grasp the concepts involved in my field of study. I would just like to see more people respecting a Christians point of view without making them feel inferior.

Finally, as to the opinion on "converted Christians." I, too, have some issues with them, but it depends on how they act after their conversion. Let's use Erica as an example. If after this announcement she goes about her life and doesn't discuss her faith with anyone who doesn't want to discuss or in appropriate venues - i.e., church,faith based businesses, etc. - I take her at her word. However, if after this initial proclamation, she is out there proclaiming her faith to anyone and everyone wherever she goes, then I would agree that this is just a cover for a void that remains. I would never lump all coverted Christians into one basket though. No one truly can know what anothers core beliefs are.

I too hope I have not offended anyone. I also hope I made my thoughts clear as I do tend to ramble at times. Smile

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wow - troyholc, i couldn't have said it better myself!

i just got caught up on this whole thread (including erica's post on her site)

i gotta say, i am happy for her if she feels she has found a path and direction in her life. i applaud her efforts and commitment she has made. i'm sure she was making quite a decent living with all of her modeling she had been doing for various publications including her own website. and to give all that up to follow what she believes is the "righteous" path, takes a very strong will and dedication. i personally know a few people who have "found" christ and completely did a 180 from the life that they were leading - they went from drug dealing, prison, and gang-banging to a life devoted to christ and their church. not only that, one of them is now teaching a youth group to help keep kids from following the same path the he did as a kid.

like troy stated above, i fully support someone who believes in something so whole-heartedly as to give up everything that they know and are comfortable with, to follow a new path in life. as long as they are not "pushing" that onto others, good for them. i myself am christian - catholic (and proud) despite all the criticism that may befall my church and my belief, i go to church every sunday, and i take my grandmother. i try to be a good christian, but i, like everyone else have my shortcomings. and thanks to Alley i commit one specific sin on a daily basis Wink
but, in my faith, all i have to do is ask to be forgiven!! haha
i don't try to get anyone else to join my church or accept Jesus as their savior... if they ask me about it, i will tell them...

what i'm basically trying to say is - good for her. and you guys shouldn't talk shit about what she has chosen to do with her life. it's not like she "took the money and ran" - she explained what she was going through, what decision she made, and she is giving a full refund to any of her subscribers that want one. i only wish i could have that much conviction in my life...

may God bless you all...
or, may your god bless you...
or, may you continue to survive on the natural resources created from the "big bang" Razz
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